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Comment on Dostoevsky in English by Sarah Young

Sarah Young — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 07:52:29 +0000

You’re right – the Garnett versions are very common, but the others definitely not. I’ve picked up copies of some of these older versions from second hand bookshops, but the one I really want, which isn’t on line either, is the Whishaw translation of Crime and Punishment. If I ever find a reasonably priced copy of that, I’ll digitize it myself!

Comment on Dostoevsky in English by Richard Armstrong

Richard Armstrong — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 15:33:39 +0000

It is worth mentioning that a lot of these translations, particularly the older ones from the 1880s and 1890s, are incredibly rare in print so without these e-resources there is little chance that most people would get the chance to read them.

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Sarah Young

Sarah Young — Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:00:12 +0000

Many thanks for this! The information on Henry Sutherland is really useful and confirms my assumption – he was obviously an interesting figure and went far from very humble beginnings in a workhouse! You’re right about the move away from Judd Street – we’ve now established the different addresses of the Free Russian Press but are still in the process of confirming some actual locations because of changes of numbering etc. I’ll be writing a post collating all the information soon.

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Hilary Chapman

Hilary Chapman — Sun, 12 Feb 2012 03:45:04 +0000

I was interested to read the comments from Nick Owen about his link with Mary and Henry Sutherland as I have found out some information about them in the course of my research on Ogarev in England. Henry Knight Sutherland was born on 28 July 1851 at St Martin in the Fields Workhouse. The name of his father does not appear on his birth certificate but 1851 was 5 years before Ogarev arrived in London. The full name and birth date are used in a draft letter by Ogarev, perhaps written for offical purposes, and published in a Russian translation. In Geneva with Mary Sutherland and Ogarev, Henry Sutherland studied clock-making first and then the natural sciences, before working as a tutor and studying further in Kiev. In 1887 he presented a doctoral thesis in medicine in Paris.
Also, about the Free Russian Press at 2 Judd Street. It remained there until the end of February 1860, when it moved to 5 Thornhill Place, Caledonian Road. The address was printed at the top of copies of “Kolokol” and the moved announced in “Kolokol” no. 63 of 15 February 1860. I hope this helps with the blue plaque campaign!

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Richard Ekins

Richard Ekins — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:40:47 +0000

Please take with care some of the detail as to precise places and dates in my posts. Thanks to Sarah’s further work, we are near to coming up with something definitive.

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Sarah Young

Sarah Young — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:40:14 +0000

Thanks Phoebe – glad to hear the Herzen museum is being refurbished (I seem to remember it being a bit shabby when I visited, and that was more years ago than I care to recall!). I’ll be writing a new post or two in due course to collate all the new findings…

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Phoebe Taplin

Phoebe Taplin — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:12:45 +0000

Thanks for all the wonderful, meticulous and constructive research and comments! I don’t know about Herzen birthday events here in London, but Sean’s comment reminded me that when I last popped into the dilapidated Herzen museum on Sivtsev Vrazhek in Moscow, it was shut for remont and they said it would reopen in 2012 – maybe by way of celebration?

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Sean Mitchell

Sean Mitchell — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:21:12 +0000

Hi Sarah and Richard

Thank you for your most recent up-dates on the Herzen Trail – I’ll be visiting Judd Street again, Richard, armed with your instructions.

With regard to the Primrose Hill site, I have got hold of a map of London in 1850 and, although it has completely disappeared now, Barrow Hill Place is clearly marked with a set of what appear to be 6 houses arranged around it. Going on the principle that house numbers go up as you get further from central London, Number 2 would indeed have been at the eastern end of this little pocket of houses giving a view over Primrose Hill Park as your letter from Herzen indicates, Sarah.

The site of the Close is between where St. Edmund’s Close and Ormonde Terrace are today and having tried to orientate myself in relation to the covered reservoir which was up on Barrow Hill in 1850, based on the suppositions given above, I would say his house was probably in the middle of what is now Ormonde Terrace. However, I’m still in the process of confirming my supposition about the house numbering.

Sarah – if you can, I would really appreciate a scanned copy of the letter where he refers to this address and, if it’s convenient to do the map, that would be great as well. I will email my address to you on your SSEES address.

Finally, are either of you aware of any celebrations of Herzen’s birthday this year – after all, like Dickens, he’s 200 years old!

Regards

Sean

Comment on Russians in London: Alexander Herzen, with a note on Nikolai Ogarev by Sarah Young

Sarah Young — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:25:48 +0000

Sean – 2 Barrow Hill Place is, I think, a very difficult place to track down. In Byloe i dumy, part 6, chapter 1 (Londonskie tumany), Herzen just refers to ‘beyond Regent’s Park, near Primrose Hill’ (PSS XIV, p. 10; My Past and Thoughts, trans. Constance Garnett, abridged Dwight Macdonald (Berkeley, Los Angeles and London: University of California Press, 1982), p. 445). It’s the letters that give more detail: vol XXIV, p. 356 has the unhelpful map I refer to in my post – I can scan a copy of this for you if you can’t access the Complete Works yourself – but it does contain a note saying there is ‘an endless view of the park’ from the window, and then letters on pp. 357-366 (nos. 234-8, 1-21 November 1852) have the address 2 Barrow Hill Place, Primrose Road. Subsequent letters have no address, but that is not unusual when he’s dealing with his normal correspondents.
Richard – I have made progress with the 2 Judd Street dates, details of which I’ve sent you by email (I want to write it as a post rather than having it hidden away in a comment).
On the Regent Square question I have no further information – I don’t know whether it was the same place as was later used by revolutionaries, nor have I found any clues to a precise address. There are references in Herzen’s letters from 1853 (vol 25 of the Complete Works) to the press being shared with the Poles (e.g. letter 96 to Michelet (pp. 120-22), which confirms Carr’s reference, but doesn’t take us any further forward.

Comment on Russians in London: Pyotr Kropotkin by Sarah Young

Sarah Young — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:03:39 +0000

Thanks – Kropotkin’s definitely my kind of guy too!